a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (2025)

sb70012

Senior Member

Born in Iran living in China

Persian

  • Dec 13, 2018
  • #1

Hello,
As you know the word "rice" is uncountable.
How can we use it in a countable noun way? For example suppose that we are talking to a farmer about planting and agricultural issues.

I want to tell him that he should put two seeds of rice into the soil and then water it.

Can I say two seeds of rice? Or two rice?
If it's not idiomatic, then how can I use "two" with "rice" in such contexts?

Thank you.

  • sdgraham

    Senior Member

    Oregon, USA

    USA English

    • Dec 13, 2018
    • #2

    I strongly suggest you quit this quest, as suggested in this concurrent post:

    uncountables

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    Egmont

    Senior Member

    Massachusetts, U.S.

    English - U.S.

    • Dec 13, 2018
    • #3

    Since rice is uncountable, as you know, you must say something like "two grains of rice." That's how English works. Please don't look for ways to say something in English that match the way one would say them in another language. You can waste a lot of time that way, with no useful result.

    Silver

    Senior Member

    Chongqing

    Chinese,Cantonese,Sichuan dialect

    • Dec 13, 2018
    • #4

    Egmont said:

    Please don't look for ways to say something in English that match the way one would say them in another language. You can waste a lot of time that way, with no useful result.

    This is what Parla taught me when she was here. Yes, "a grain of rice" is what I was going to add. a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (4)a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (5)

    Kenny Chang

    Senior Member

    Kaohsiung, Taiwan

    Chinese(Traditional)

    • Aug 3, 2022
    • #5

    Added to previous thread.
    Cagey, moderator

    Hello, everyone.

    I know rice (as a kind of food) is uncountable. But if I want to talk about the individual rice, can I say a rice? Or should I say a grain of rice?
    For example, how do you describe this picture?

    a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (7)

    1. There are three rices on the table.
    2. There are three grains of rice on the table.

    Thank you.

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    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Aug 3, 2022
    • #7

    Kenny Chang said:

    But if I want to talk about the individual rice, can I say a rice?

    No. You can't say that. You have to say "a grain of rice".

    When you have a substance (an uncountable noun) in English, you use of to make a countable noun:

    1. a unit of <noun> (a grain of rice; a loaf of bread; a grain of sand; a sheet of paper)
    2. a measure of <noun> (a kilo of rice; a liter of petrol)
    3. a containerful of <noun> (a cup of tea; a plate of noodles; a bowl of soup; a can of beans)

    It's like measure words for English.

    Kenny Chang

    Senior Member

    Kaohsiung, Taiwan

    Chinese(Traditional)

    • Aug 3, 2022
    • #8

    Thank you for your help!a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (12)a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (13)a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (14)

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Aug 3, 2022
    • #9

    In addition to DB's explanation:

    You can make 'rice' countable by saying 'a rice', but this does not mean 'one grain of rice'. As with most uncountable substances, when we say 'a xx', we mean 'one type of xx'. For example, we can say "Basmati is a rice which is often used in Indian cuisine", referring to a specific type of rice.

    Kenny Chang

    Senior Member

    Kaohsiung, Taiwan

    Chinese(Traditional)

    • Aug 3, 2022
    • #10

    Wordy McWordface said:

    In addition to DB's explanation:

    You can make 'rice' countable by saying 'a rice', but this does not mean 'one grain of rice'. As with most uncountable substances, when we say 'a xx', we mean 'one type of xx'. For example, we can say "Basmati is a rice which is often used in Indian cuisine", referring to a specific type of rice.

    Thank you for your further explanation.a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (17)

    elroy

    Moderator: EHL, Arabic, Hebrew, German(-Spanish)

    Chicago, IL

    US English, Palestinian Arabic bilingual

    • Aug 4, 2022
    • #11

    dojibear said:

    When you have a substance (an uncountable noun) in English, you use of to make a countable noun:

    1. a unit of <noun> (a grain of rice; a loaf of bread; a grain of sand; a sheet of paper)
    2. a measure of <noun> (a kilo of rice; a liter of petrol)
    3. a containerful of <noun> (a cup of tea; a plate of noodles; a bowl of soup; a can of beans)

    “noodles” and “beans” are countable, so we can say “three noodles” and “three beans.”

    natkretep

    Moderato con anima (English Only)

    Singapore

    English (Singapore/UK), basic Chinese

    • Aug 4, 2022
    • #12

    Hmm, I'm happy with 'three beans', but 'three noodles' means three varieties of noodles for me. I might say 'three strands of noodles' to make the meaning clear.

    elroy

    Moderator: EHL, Arabic, Hebrew, German(-Spanish)

    Chicago, IL

    US English, Palestinian Arabic bilingual

    • Aug 4, 2022
    • #13

    “three noodles” works for me for three individual pieces of the same type of pasta. I think US English and UK English use the word “noodles” differently.

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    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Aug 4, 2022
    • #14

    elroy said:

    I think US English and UK English use the word “noodles” differently.

    That's right. In BrE, we only use "noodles" to refer to thin, Asian style noodles.

    Italian pasta (spaghetti, rigatoni and so on) is not called "noodles" in BrE. I was surprised the first time I heard an AmE speaker referring to a plate of macaroni as "noodles".

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    RM1(SS)

    Senior Member

    Connecticut

    English - US (Midwest)

    • Aug 4, 2022
    • #15

    Wordy McWordface said:

    I was surprised the first time I heard an AmE speaker referring to a plate of macaroni as "noodles".

    I would be, too.

    Myridon

    Senior Member

    Texas

    English - US

    • Aug 4, 2022
    • #16

    natkretep said:

    I might say 'three strands of noodles' to make the meaning clear.

    To me, this would mean that you had taken one noodle and sliced it into strips. There's no "X of noodles" that's like "grain of rice" for me.

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • Aug 4, 2022
    • #17

    RM1(SS) said:

    I would be, too.

    So does this seem odd to you? It's written by an American chef who's using 'noodles' as a synonym of 'pasta':

    Another of the best noodles for mac and cheese is cavatappi, which could be thought of as an extreme form of elbow macaroni. It's a much bigger noodle, curved into a spiral — the Italian name translates literally as "corkscrew" — and it's thicker and chewier than macaroni. The added folds and length give it more places to hold cheese, and the noodles are often ridged as well for even more sauce-holding power.

    https://www.ehow.com/list_6888060_types-commonly-used-macaroni-cheese.html

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    LucyLucy

    Member

    japanese

    • Jun 10, 2024
    • #18

    owlman5 said:

    a rice/a grain of rice [countable] (27) Use a grain of rice. There are three grains of rice on the table.

    But what about hairs,we treat hair as uncountable noun since no one has the necessity to count hair,but what if I encountered three hairs in my place while I'm dining in a restaurant?

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    USMeg

    Senior Member

    Virginia, USA

    English/USA

    • Jun 10, 2024
    • #19

    Hairs are most certainly countable. God knows how many you have (so they say). It is used in an alternate meaning as a collective for all of them on your head. I hope you never find one in your meal, much less three.
    Also, irrespective of what it means for you, noodles is never construed as a singular. (Nor beans.)

    natkretep

    Moderato con anima (English Only)

    Singapore

    English (Singapore/UK), basic Chinese

    • Jun 11, 2024
    • #20

    LucyLucy said:

    But what about hairs,we treat hair as uncountable noun since no one has the necessity to count hair,but what if I encountered three hairs in my place while I'm dining in a restaurant?

    But I am likely to put in a quantifier here and say 'three strands of hair'.

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